One of the players many Raiders fans wanted on the team, CB Tracy Porter, signed a one year deal with the Denver Broncos. The financial details will certainly leak later, but were have not been disclosed at this time.
The Raiders were scheduled to meet with him but signed Shawntae Spencer and then Pat Lee to one year deals instead and postponed that meeting. The Titans were also interested in Porter's services but did not come to terms with Porter before he left and visited Denver.
Denver appears to be gearing up to win immediately, as much as possible.
Dreesen (to the Ponies) and McClain (resigned with Ravens) are no longer options! Same goes for Tulloch, Bunkley, Mark Anderson and LawFirm for those keeping count!
Lawson seems like the most likely candidat to help the LB corps right now, unless a rookie surprises!
I have heard the deal is for one year at $4 mil. Prob a bit much for us especially once we had signed Bartell and maybe even before.
I really wanted to see McClain signed but I am not surprised at all about the Ravens wanting to resign him. Lewis has very little left in the tank and they have lost Johnson so losing another LB would have made it very hard for them. I was actually surprised they even let him hit Free Agency.
The LB corps is very deep at least and there are still guys like London Fletcher, Rocky McIntosh, Barrett Rudd (I think he is still unsigned) to go with Lawson just to name a couple.
@nilbymouth I heard 4 mill too, but i very much think that 4 mill should have been within our range for a potential long term starter! We still have several big contracts that needs to be restructured/cut, and TB33 should be signed to a long term deal which would lower his cap hit as well!
I think it is a really bad move that we let him go if he didn't want more than that, and i am sure he will be a really solid player for the Ponies!
I get the springcleaning, and accept that Reggie wants to start from scratch so he can mold the organization the way he want to, but seeing the moves we have made thus far and hearing his interview i cannot see a scenario where we will contend this coming year! Good coaching can do a lot, but in the first year of a regime change it still needs to be worked out properly, while the personel is streamlined to fit the new direction!
All this is understandable when you try to rebuild, but if that is the case then it just doesn't make any sense to sign old has-beens and no-names to decent contracts instead of a potential long term starter like Porter who was not a lot more expensive! If Bartell and Spencer do in fact succeed with us, they still only have a couple of years left!
Imo you either prepare and focus on a complete rebuilding of the team where the focuus is the future, or you keep a scope of competing now, making the last tweaks and adding the last pieces of the puzzle! To me, right now, it seems that we are stuck somewhere in the middle the way we are handling the player side!
If Reggie is trying to rebuild through the draft, this will take a couple of years (because we have a great lack of picks), and in that case we have several big contracts/players that will either be too old or running on their last legs! In three seasons Palmer, Seymore, TK, SeaBass, Lechler, Bartell/Spencer will be someones that don't have much time left, if any, when that season is around! D-Mac will have some thread left, but have used a couple of more years punishing his body (and perhaps being injured again)!
I just want us to go all in on either rebuilding or being competitive - and if it was rebuilding, several of these players should be traded imo!
I know that we cannot pass judgement before the final piece of the puzzle has been laid, and i will keep hope right until that day comes!
The entire league seems to aknowledge and believe in Reggie, so he hopefully have a couple of rabbits up his sleaves - but i really understand Raiderfans that are starting to question these moves, because it is frustrating to see small pieces of the puzzle we don't like , when we don't know how the big picture will end up looking like!
Come on Reggie, do us proud!
@nilbymouth Yeah, the McClain signing makes sense for them, but had hoped he would be on our radar as well!
Erin Henderson was signed to a 2 mill deal .- that is very cheap for a solid starting OLB, would have been a good signing for us, but we will look elsewhere!
With the LB contracts that have been given thus far, it seems that the price has gone down a bit from previous years - meaning that players like David Hawthorne might become available at our price.. That said, i think you're right and in that Lawson is a name we could look at, and he seems to be the favourite to join our squad!
Reggie also mentioned that LBs should be available in the middle rds of the draft, so it goes to reason that we will be loking to use one of our "early" picks on a LB!
An interesting name is Vontzae Burfict as he is a special talent that has some real issues which have made him fall! If Reggie and Allen think they can handle him, he could become a strong and violent prescence in the middle of our Defense - especially if implementing the 3-4!
Really well put! I guess though I look at it differently than some, if not most people seem to on here at the moment.
Firstly, in regards to Tracy Porter I see it like this. Allen knows Porter and his talents well. If he thought really highly of Porter and what he could bring to this team I really think Allen would have talked to McKenzie about this and I think they would have chased Porter a lot harder. I also look at the lack of real interest Porter seemed to have. He visited a few teams and never seemed to get a contract offer till now. And that was a one year deal. Maybe he is not as highly rated as we may think. Saints also showed no sign about wanting him back too.
Secondly, if Reggie is trying to rebuild, which I think this team needs to in a way, I think the reasoning to keep these older guys is to try and develop some younger guy behind them. Rebuilding a team the right way takes a couple years. I think we can all accept that. And with the lack of draft picks this year these later round picks will take a couple seasons to develop. By signing Bartell and Spencer to one year deals maybe McKenzie thinks DVD and Chekwa can develop into quality corners with another season of experience. Players develop quicker when they are being pushed by a solid veteran in front of them.
Also from my understanding the way these contracts were reconstructed were to allow us to easily cut these veterans in another season or two.
@nilbymouth In order to become a powerhouse in football who competes for the SB every year, it is naturally needed to build and implement a solid base core, and build through the draft with the needs of the coming years at heart! That is what good teams do, and that is what Reggie seeks, so it makes sense! But it will take at least 3 years before we have build a legit base and we can start to compete for the SB unless some great luck strikes before!
Good thing is, we will give a lot of young guys a chance to contribute, so we could be lucky and end up with some solid low rd or UDFA rookies that can become a part of the future!
I do agree about the Barnes move. That is one move where I just cannot for the life of me figure out why he is brought back. It wouldn't have surprised me to see him out of the NFL he is that bad! I can really only hope he is an absolute last resort and a rookie or someone else has a great camp that will force him out of the team for good!
The contracts of these older guys are very steep and regardless of when / if they will be cut we have be facing some hefty dead money. I guess though we can't cut all these guys and field a competitive team. Even if McKenzie sees us as rebuilding he still has to be in the mindset that we have to field the best team he can and the objective is still to win as many games as possible.
I think as a whole the Raider Nation is just not used to this way of building a team. AD ran the team in such a unique way, that his methods and McKenzie's methods are chalk and cheese and this has really hit us Raider fans hard. We are so used to AD always bringing in a big name Free Agent, making a big move trade or causing a stir in the draft trying to make the team "win now" that we are not used to someone guttering the team and rebuilding for the future by sacrificing a couple years. In my opinion this is the right way to go if we want to become a consistent playoff team who is competing every year not just in our division but in the playoffs consistently.
@nilbymouth I like your take on it, and i really hope you end up being right!`I think it is that i can't see what their intentions are that really nags me!
With Big Al you always knew that he was gonna do whatever he could to field a team he thought could take us to the promised land NOW - not tomorrow! Reggie is different, and i have not been able to figure him out in a way which makes me certain about what will be our beloved Raiders in the coming season, and the seasons going forward!
This whole new era or regime is extremely interesting, terrifying and mind boggling all at the same time - and i've been feeling like a rollercoaster while i have found myself unable to just sit back, relax and wait to see what will actually happens! I just keep speculating without any real knowledge or base to make it feasible, and it annoys me! -)
I understand the issues you raise regarding Porter, and naturally it raises a little concern when a should-be-sought-after young CB is not pursued hard even when the other DBs are getting signed! But unless he has some secret issues (which he might have), i would still prefer him over one of the two others as he at least has the time on his side, making him a potential starter for many years to come should he pan out! Hopefully Chekwa and DVD can make that issue a non-issue by stepping up and become the future starting CBs for us!
I also very much agree with you that you need the veterans in order to help the development of the younger players as best as possible! Imo it is always a good thing when you bring in seasoned veterans with experience, good work habits and leaderskills as they help push and mold the younger players as you point out - one of the reasons i liked the Seymore, Hendo, Rock signings when they were made!
But i still think that the contracts of those older players are quite steep if we are not contemplating to go all in for a deep PO run, which it seems that we are not at the moment!
If we are focusing on the rebuilding that is fine by me, but then the Cap space that is on these large contracts (which even if they are cut will hit us going forward) could be saved for next year, or used to extend the promising young players so that we could come back hard next year with a much improved cap and our key young players under contract as well as a real draft to help solidify what we need!
Additionally. going with the rebuilding thought (here comes a pipedream if we are to rebuild), these older and valuable players (who have been paid up front which makes them valuable tradeobjects for PO teams) could be traded for additional picks this year so we could already get started with some real talent this season!
I know that these are just thoughts of mine, and there may be many good reasons why they would never hold up - that is also why i will wait to pass judgement before there is a finished product to judge! They should at least get the benefit of the doubt before they have even fielded their first team imo!
And they are, at the very least, much more competent and knowledgable in the professional football business than i am, so they naturally have a plan that must make sense to them, and hopefully it will make sense to all of us once it becomes clear! I really hope that they suddenly make a move which makes us all go "Ohhhh, that was where they were going, makes sense now! In Reggie we trust!"!
... And not a another move that makes us go "Huh? Really?" like the Barnes move (considering his interview where it seems at least feasible that Barnes could end up starting, however doubtful i think and hope it is)!