The first day of free agency came and went with the Raiders making no sounds at all. No signings, no rumors, no scheduled visits announced. And this is a good thing.
The first day of free agency is when teams tend to overspend to fill a need instead of waiting for the right value. The Raiders can neither afford to overspend nor need to.
As someone on Twitter pointed out yesterday, no team that has "won" free agency has ever gone on to win the Super Bowl. The two simply aren't compatible. Free agency can field some good values but those aren't found on the first day.
Think of free agency like Goodwill. You can find some good value but only if you sift through a lot of junk.
In fact, none of the teams in the AFC West made any kind of real splash.
The Chargers signed WR Robert Meachum to a 4 year deal to replace departed WR Vincent Jackson but Meachum, while talented, isn't nearly the same talent as Jackson so that's a win for the Raiders.
The Chiefs are going to host former Chargers RB Mike Tolbert. No real splash, there.
The Broncos are still considered one of the front runners to land Peyton Manning. That would obviously be a splash, if it happened. I have my doubts that Peyton would choose Denver over other options but I'll defer to those closer to the situation that they're still a strong candidate.
Expect the Raiders to set up some low key free agent visits in the next few days. With Boss' release they have more than $3 million to use this season and I would expect them to bring in some new players with it.
None of the players the Raiders were realistically going to be able to target have been signed – I've heard only that C Chris Myers may go visit with the Titans and have heard some passing interest in CB Tracy Porter. The LB market hasn't really done anything, so many options are still available at that position.
With day 1 in the books, who would you like the Raiders to turn their attention to?
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Is it official that we cut Wimbley?
Walterfootball.com reported it as being done?
We need some players soon, hopefully good, solid players who can create a core for the team going forward!
At this point I would like to see us make a run for almost anyone. We seem to be doing nothing but shedding players. We have no draft (or hardly any) and we are shedding players left and right. Granted, we needed some shaking up, particulalary on defense, but at this point I have absolutley no clue about what direction this team will be going.
With Henderson now gone, I would like to see us make a run for Sammie Lee Hill from the Lions. He is a Resticted Free Agent but I believe he only recieved an original round tender which is a Fourth Round selection and I think he will be well worth it. Otherwise moving Houston to DT could be an option.
Also I still hold some hope we can sign BenJarvus Green-Eliis but it doesn't look likely. I think he would be an excellent back-up to McFadden.
UPDATE!!! Carlisle and HEnderson are gone!!!!! It's suposed to clear about 7 million dollar from the salary cap so some signings might come late today or early tomorrow
I still think some reinforcements are on their way. No one has shown any interest for Aubrayo Franklin. No LB has signed yet and for all i Know, even those expensive Houston OL who everybody wants to be signed by the Raiders are still in the market and hopefully will get cheaper by the second. What I'm sure is, no one is coming to town unless he's a complete bargain
Didn't think we'd be signing many big dollar free agents, so this is not a surprise to me. Personally, I'd rather we save our money and spend it on Bush. Losing Boss was no big deal imho. He might have been the best TE on the team stats-wise, but that wasn't saying much. Anyone out there (or already on the team) can fill those shoes imo. I'm hoping McK and Allen have their sights set on some guys flying under the radar. I'd rather we take a chance on some youngsters or cheap FAs than spend on somebody who could end up being a problem - like the 49ers signing Moss (wtf???)
McKenzie is really gambling with next years team with all this releasing of players. I am really starting to question his moves, and do not support the releasing of Boss at all. Losing Zach Miller last year,and now Boss, really puts us thin at tight end, and if the Raiders let Michael Bush go, which all indications are they will, there is going to be significant damage to our offense. Defensively, McKenzie has really gambled, and if he releases Wimbley, which I think is only a matter of time, that could be a mistake that could come back to seriously haunt the Raiders. The San Diego Chargers would sign Wimbley in a second, if given an opportunity, and I would hate to have a team like that sign argueably our best linebacker. It was hard enough having the Chiefs sign Routt.....
biggest decision revolves around Wimbley...if they get a replacement by 17th, he goes if not, he'll stay with soem kinda restructure
I would like to see him back also, but he seems to have some interest by a couple teams - have heard Chargers and Jets - so this may drive his price up a little.
Mike Brisiel rumored to be paying a visit to the team. Carlisle replacement maybe? Expect a couple more lower ranked, under appreciated players being signed but not for another week when all the big spending teams start running out of cap room.
Just saw this. Henderson I was expecting, Carlisle not so much. I expected Carlisle to re-structure though so maybe he wasn't keen? Although it has also been said from his agent he may be bought back. Looks like could be a new looking OL. I am hoping we make a run for one of Chris Myers, Scott Wells, Evan Mathis and Eric Winston. I would like to see a couple of them signed, but with the very limited funds we have and so many holes this would be a big ask.
@Indy! Yeah, you're right. We're gonna go and try to dig some gold out of a coal mine. Reggie's always been known for having a great eye for talent and this is the time to show it.
Even with Boss being released we are not thin at TE. Ausberry, Myers and Gordon. Not many teams carry more than 3 TE's. Plus Reece can cover TE also.
As for Routt he is a quality number two CB but not a number one. And it showed last year. With us not having a decent number one CB next to him it would have probably been another disaster like this past season.
@Spartacus Actually I think h'es not gambling but assumming this might be a very tough year, but a necessary one though. If he wants to make the team healthy from an economic point of view and utterly competitive each year from the sport point of view, he needs to clean up the house.
The thing about the Raiders for the last 10 years is we never recovered from that SuperBowl loss. Al Davis always thought he was a couple of big players away from coming back and winning that game and by thinking that way this team never had a real rebuilding process. This is not gonna be a 4-12 season again (I trully hope so), but we need to know this team wasn't that close to be a contender as we all wanted to think.
@dondiraider I think he's going anyway. He has no intention to restructure and this team can't afford a 17 million dollar player who's not even in the same league Mario Willimas is. The raiders may be playng the waiting game just to be sure San Diego is done hiring all the big names so they can't afford Wimbley.
@nilbymouth @dondiraider The Chazmanian devil has potential, and i would like to see him back as well, but i am not sure that his best shot lies with us, and with interest elsewhere i doubt we will see him back in S&B!
Hope he succeeeds though, he's always handled himself well, and working hard to overcome those injuries must have required a lot, so hopefully it pays off for him!
Rumored? I see a lot of people leaving and not much signs of anyone coming in. If the strategy is to wait until every other team takes what they want, we are left with only what other teams didn't want. Wasn't that one of hte biggest complaints about our team over the last several years, that many of our starters wouldn't even be second string on other teams.
Granted, sometimes you can find some gems in what other teams didn't see (Denarius Moore), but that is usualy one or two prospects in any given year. We need to fill some major gaps. It would be nice to get at least some proven talent.
Mike Brisiel rumored to be visting the team offices. Carlisle replacement? I hope so. Not quite Evan Mathis, but a solid RG who should come at a reasonable price with good experience in the ZBS and coaches. Might even help get myers here. Here's hoping anyway!
With us not needing to release him till the 17th I think McKenzie could be using this to his advantage. This gives him a bit more leverage for a late re-negoiation. Leaving it till then to cut him, McKenzie (and Wimbley) knows that teams would have spent a lot of their money and Wimbley's value will go down from what it would have been if he was in Free Agency from day one.
and Boss was just signed by the Chiefs. Its one thing to be losing our top talent. But to lose it all to our division opponents is going to come back and bite us in the ass.
I hear Rock Cartwright is heading to the Niners. Again, if this is part of a plan to upgrade this year, then I am all for it. But I am not seeing anyone come in.
Brisiel to replace Carlisle, maybe. I cannot see replacing Carlisle as all that bad. But we seem to be losing a lot of talent, and picking up none.
If we don't make improvements in free agency, and we don't have much as far as drafting goes, man is this season going to be a long one.
We have had to many of those lately. The last couple were starting to look like we were finally on the cusp of a turn around. Now it looks like McKenzie is turning his back on everything and trying to rebuild form the bottom up. I don't want to see a 3 or 4 year rebuilding process, as I thought twe had done a lot of that.
I must say I agree with you Spartacus. I am not saying I disagree with cutting and restructuring, as long as it somehow improves the team. And I mean this year. We were one game away from making the playoffs. We had issues on defense, no doubt. But I think alot of that was philosophy. People wre saying at the beginning of last year how Bresnehans prevent defense was going to lose games and it did. Last years team just needed some tweeking to be competative again. All I am seeing is some mass shedding of players and no one being lined up to replace them. After 9 years of not making the playoffs, we are hungry for that next step. And we were not that far from it.
I gotta believe that they are thinking that we can compete this year. Why else would yu restructure contacts like Seymour's and Palmers. If this was just a throw away year, why not just cut them too and save the money.
So I got believe they have something in mind for this year. I just don't see what that is.
@nilbymouth The problem with your logic, is that the Raiders have released (7) very decent players and have signed no one that is as good as any of the players released. This is poor decision making in my opinion, regardless of contracts, and if McKenzie is going to try to rebuild this team via the draft, it could be 4-5 years before the Raiders are competitive again. The roster we had last year was good enough to make the playoffs, and with a minor tweaking here and there, the Raiders would be fine. Now, there is a serious question of them being competitive. Just wish you had this kind of patience for Carson Palmer as you do McKenzie. If you are this supportive of McKenzie's moves so far, I would think you would want to give Palmer the same benefit of the doubt, considering he had no training camp and pre-season etc. I am not as optimistic with McKenzie as you are...I want to see players signed, not just released...
He's not going to build through the draft this year. We don't have much of a draft.
Some are wondeinrg if McKenzie is looking at this as a throw away year. I certainly hope not. Granted, we need help on defense. But our offense looked pretty good to me when you consider all it went through and still managed to put up enough points to win games (if only the defense could have stopped anybody).
When you consider the division we are in, this team should have enough to compete in it with some tweeking. I just don't see any tweeking as much as a wholesale clearing.
Maybe when all is said and done things won't look so bad. At least I hope that is the case.
Come on man! So many people are too impatient! When was the last time a team went on a Free Agent spending spree ever done well the next season? The correctly run quality teams (Packers, Steelers, Patriots, Ravens just to name a couple) build through the draft. They might make 1-2 smaller signings, but generally these teams are built through the draft.
People have been complaining for years about the way Davis has run this team and now we finally have a decent GM, you got to let the man do his job. Do you really think we would be in any better shape this year with AD was still in charge? We would still have all these overpaid players around and could very well still have Chucky as the DC!
McKenzie has come into this team with a very tough ask. Contracts are completely "out of whack" as he has said with numerous player being very over paid. I don't see why everyone is so worried about losing Wimbley. He is a decent enough player, but is being completely overpaid. Even if he goes to the Chargers so be it. I am more worried about Jarrett Johnson who is way more of a beast at OLB than Wimbley.
Even with the now $10mil in cap space we cannot go splurging in Free Agency much with all the holes we need to fill. The roster will need to be filled with our draft picks, Free Agent rookies and under the radar type signings. I can see us doing some wheeling and dealing during the draft, maybe moving down a couple spots to pick up another late pick etc and seeing one or two of these others still on the roster traded away.
For all these guys that have been cut and re-structured we are still only $10mil under the cap. That is showing how bad a situation we really were in.
@Spartacus I will hold my breath and wait to judge before FA and the draft have come and gone so we can see the result, but i very much agree that from a competitive perspective this season, it doesn't look too good right now!
It could very well seem that this is a transition year that is being sacrifized for the future, but in that case i don't understand the keeping of Big Sey as he will be one year older and was quite expensive this year! Palmer isn't getting any younger either!
I understand the "spring cleaning" as Reggie will need to start over, but accepting a year where we might not be competitive is tough, even though it might be for the best!
But if we were to throw in the season it would not make sense to restructure so we have the large contracts next year as well, so the logic says they try to establish a decent team that can compete for the AFCW (where KC imo looks scary - good thing they are stuck with Cassel!!!)!
I still believe however, that we will sign some FAs who can become a part of the future - i would prefer some great players and leaders who can become a part of the core going forward!
@Harder2000 @nilbymouth @Jososi McKenzie is really starting to scare me now. I read a report that the Raiders released Wimbley??? Huge mistake. Wimbley is a solid player who will be picked up by an AFC West team. My money says the Chargers. It is very obvious McKenzie want to build this team up from next years draft, and it seems like he is throwing in the towel for this upcomming season in order to get higher draft picks next year. Al Davis would be furious with McKenzie, and right now, I do not have confidence in this so called genius from Green Bay. It is time for him to quit releasing players and start signing free agents. I want the Raiders as competitive as possible, and releasing all these players is not a way to start a season, competitively speaking...
@nilbymouth @Jososi The draft will be the primary buildingblock, no doubt about that! But it is definately hard to watch all those great players who fit our needs vanish in front of us! Especially seeing good players go to the AFCW is difficult imo!
I hold my hope out for Tracy Porter, Kendall Langford, Chris Myers, Erik Winston, Erin Henderson and Lofton/Tulloch - at least some of them as they all would fit needs imo!
@Jososi The top teams very rarely are big spenders in Free Agency. They are built through the draft and I think that is the model McKenzie is going to build this team.