After losing two games in a row, the Raiders needed to finish the season strong to remain in the playoff race. But first they needed to finish a game strong. And as if a microcosm of the season, the Raiders collapsed in the fourth quarter.
The Raiders struck first in this game and they did it with the help of a few big penalties called on the Lions. It was a role reversal of sorts for the Raiders who lead the league in penalties. Three straight penalties set up a Louis Murphy touchdown run on a reverse from 12 yards out.
The lead wouldn't last long, though, as the Lions marched right down the field to answer with a touchdown of their own. The big play was a 51 yard touchdown strike to Calvin Johnson. The long catch would be foreshadowing for things to come.
The Raiders and Lions would trade touchdowns in the second quarter as well. The Raiders' touchdown would come first, on an impressive 43 yard catch and run for a touchdown by Darrius Heyward-Bey. On the catch, he leapt in the air and took a hit but held onto the ball, then he raced to the end zone. The Lions' touchdown also came on a long pass that went 39 yards to tie it up at 14. The Raiders were able to put together a good drive and add a field goal to go up 17-14 at halftime.
To begin the third quarter, the Raiders were putting together a nice drive but it would stall just out of field goal range. Later in the third, with the Lions in third and one, the Raider defense stopped the Lions for no gain twice to turn the ball over on downs. The Raiders got the ball back near midfield and were threatening when Carson Palmer hit DHB across the middle for a big gainer. But as he was fighting for more yardage, he was hit and fumbled the ball to give the Lions the ball back.
The defense held strong and the Raiders would get the ball back to drive into Lions territory where Janikowski hit a 51 yard field goal.
The Raiders stopped the Lions at their own 14 yard line on the return and two plays later, Tommy Kelly got into the backfield to strip sack Matt Stafford. Aaron Curry recovered the fumble at the six yard line and ran it in for the touchdown. The touchdown put Hue Jackson in a position to make a decision on whether to kick the extra point or go for two for a chance at a 14 point lead. He opted to kick the extra point and take a 27-14 lead midway through the fourth quarter. Hue defended his decision.
"There's a time to go for two and there's a time... to me, I thought going for one in that situation is the right thing to do."
The question becomes, if not late in the fourth quarter, when would be a good time to go for two? The decision not to try for the two point conversion this late in the game would ultimately play a large role in the outcome. The Lions drove the ball right down the field on the next series to pull within a touchdown of the lead as opposed to just a tie at 27-21.
The Raider offense would need to eat up some clock and score in order to seal the win. The drive started well and then stalled near midfield when on third and three, Palmer's pass sailed long on Chaz Schilens. The Raiders needed a great Lechler punt to pin the Lions deep and that is exactly what they got. He punted it high in the air and it landed inside the ten and dribbled to the two yard line. The Lions would need to go 98 yards with 2:14 left and no timeouts. It was then up to the Raider defense.
The drive began moving slowly, but like so many times this season and in this game already, it was a long completion that did the Raiders in. With 1:33 left, Stafford threw a deep ball that looked like it was ripe for an interception but the defenders closest to Calvin Johnson were middle linebacker Rolando McClain and backup safety, Jerome Boyd. Calvin Johnson came down with an uncontested 48 yard catch to put the Lions at the Raider 13 yard line with :53 left in the game.
"Go make that play," said Hue of the coverage on the catch. "It isn't a scheme issue. The ball's laying up in the air, you gotta go make that play when you've got an opportunity. Their guy made it and we didn't."
Two plays later, it was another touchdown catch by Calvin Johnson in the back of the endzone to put the Lions up by one point 28-27.
The Raiders would have 35 seconds and two timeouts to try and get into field goal range and win the game. After two completions put the Raiders at midfield, a sack, and a drop by DHB cut the drive short. Then with four seconds left in the game, Janikowski was sent in to attempt a would-be NFL record 65 yard field goal. The snap was high, Janikowski's kick was low and it was blocked by Ndamukong Suh to end the game.
This is a crushing loss for the Raiders as they were in need of a win to pull even with the Broncos for the division. They had slim hopes anyway, but they needed to win to have a good chance.
Calvin Johnson came into this game in a five game slump in which he hadn't cracked 100 yards and had just one touchdown in that time. He had outplayed any of those games by halftime with 119 yards and a touchdown. His best game of the season was 125 yards and a touchdown. He blew that out of the water with 219 yards receiving and two touchdowns, including the game winner.
Hue spoke on the Lions' late game winning drive after the game:
"A team just went 98 yards and found a way to win. We had chances to win the game. We didn't make a play down the right sideline late in the game and they found a way to make it. The disappointing part is their best player, he won the game for them. Between the quarterback and Calvin Johnson, 214 yards and two touchdowns, that's how you lose. It's very frustrating."
Aside from the general anger and disappointment in the locker room after the game, the players seemed to be collectively mum. But Tyvon Branch did a good job summing it up.
"We knew we had to win that one," said Branch, holding back frustration. "[We] fought hard, fought hard, fought hard and let it slip. These are the games that hurt. These are the games you remember and they hurt for a long time."
The Raiders head to Kansas City next week where they will face the Chiefs who, led by new quarterback Kyle Orton, ended the Packers' undefeated season. They finish the season at home against the resurgent Chargers. Meanwhile, the division leading Broncos, who lost to the Patriots today, face the fading Buffalo Bills next week and end the season against the Chiefs. The Raiders need to win and have the Broncos lose to the Chiefs at the end of the season to tie for the division lead. All other playoff scenarios involve a wildcard spot for which they are fighting with several other AFC teams.
If the Raiders are indeed watching the playoffs in January, it will be the final minutes of this game that will haunt them all offseason.
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Lots of gloom and doom on the board here - some called for, some quite unnecessary imho. At the beginning of the season - before game 1 - it was easy to see we were going to have problems with the defense. We lost Nnamdi to FA and Hiram Eugene to injury before the first game - that's 40% of the nickel package right off the bat. Then we get hit hardest in the backfield with even more injuries during the season. So it's a patchwork pass D the entire year. Then we have one of the toughest schedules in the NFL - facing the AFC East and the NFC North. So personally? Even though I think this team (when healthy) is ready to compete - I put our wins between 7-9 this season at the beginning of the year. That's right where we are. It hurts because there are obviously some games we should have won - Detroit for sure, Miami where we didn't even compete (Hey - I had $300 seats for that one - think that didn't piss me off?), KC when we had to go with Boller, Denver when the D totally collapsed... So we could have been in the playoffs - but instead we dropped some tough ones. Hey - this is how it goes. That doesn't mean you rip the team apart and start over.
I see people blaming Carson down below. You have to be kidding me. The guy played an almost perfect game against Detroit - does ANYONE believe Campbell could have had a game like that? We're lucky to have Palmer - people like Skip Bayless were saying we should have spent picks on Vince Young instead! And remember Palmer had no preseason, he's playing with a new team, learning a new playbook and the whole time his entire receiving corps has been rotating in and out of the hospital! Go ahead and blame the defense if you want - but they have the same problem - guys getting hurt every week. If there should be any concern for next season - it's the way some of these guys keep getting hurt... DMC, Ford... If we can't have them on the field - they're no good to us. But this is not the time to bail on the entire package. I've been watching the Raiders long enough to know this is a good team that's ready to compete with a couple more pieces we can pick up in the offseason.
Anybody notice that Chucky B's prevent D looked almost identical to Rob Ryans prevent that also failed so spectacularly in previous years? Rush the four, hope for the best? Like deja vu all over again...
I am absolutely sick to my stomach....I sat in my seat after the game for at least two hours and kept replaying it in my head. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED!!!! The Raiders had this game in control, and after they went up by 13 points I figured GAME OVER. This was one of the worst defensive collapses I have ever seen happen to the Raiders. And the timing of this collapse couldn't be worse... Was it the pressure of the playoffs? Was it Chuck Bresnahan's fault? Do the Raiders have an overrated secondary? As good as DHB played, did he cost us the game with that key dropped pass in the final seconds? Is Calvin Johnson really that good? So many questions but what caused this loss??? The Raiders have now put themselves in a position where they have to win the final two games....They have not made it easy on themselves as divisional games are always the hardest, and what makes matters worse, my least favorite team, the San Diego Chargers, are back from oblivion and are in the playoff hunt. This just can't get any worse......
OK, I haven't followed football in the last 10 years like I used to, and I might be just a dumb forklift driver, I have worked many weekends and not been able to watch, but I have watched some, and parts of some games.
3 or 4 weeks ago I saw an improving Raider team, although not particularly well coached and needing some shoreing up in the defense dept.(giving up late points to keep the opposition alive in every game).
I was watching a team that was improving, learning how to win and ready to take that next step to be a real contender.
The Green Bay game OK, it's Green Bay, but to be routed by Miami, and that happens in football, I feel that the Raiders may have been looking ahead to Green Bay, and if that's the case, that one falls on the coaching staff.
It is a recurring theme, late points and big plays given up!
Off the top of my head, Buffalo, the Bears, the Lions, do I need to go on?
I'm afraid that I am now watching a teram that is going backwards, earlier this year the Raiders made a bold move to acquire Carson Palmer, it's time for a few more bold moves, coaching and DB wise.
I'm afraid that the Raiders are forgetting how to win again and worse yet losing the confidence that they were starting to exhibit.
Yesterdays final drive was particularly painful, for me it was the acid test and I have to say that I feel fundemental changes are needed to move to the next level.
Just the thought of Chuck Bresnahan makes me extremely angry! OK there are question marks as to why HJ didnt go for 2 points, but, with so little time remaining as a HC you have to trust your defence will be able to not give up 14 points in the last 5 minutes!
What makes it worse for me, is that, I some how knew it would happen... It almost happened against the Texans, Jets, Browns & Vikings.. Not to mention the huge 20 point deficits given up to Broncos and Bills. Let alone being thumped by Dolphins & Packers... I'm not counting KC as a game because of the troubles at QB we were having...
To me, if it wasn't for Chuck being the worst DC in the NFL and certainly in recent memory the worst DC I have seen for a long time we would be easily looking at being top of the AFC West, but, quite conceivably we could lose to an improving SD (always impressive when a team beats the Ravens) & if KC can beat Packers they will certainly be extremely hard for us to beat them., we could end up being 7 - 9 and be sitting 3rd or 4th in the division...
I think the reason why McClain hasn't been that good at MLB for us is because he isn't meant to be a 4-3 MLB, but rather a 3-4 ILB... I think that in order for us to get the best out of McClain, we will have to move to a 3-4 base D next season.
I say fire Bresnahan now and if you can't hire Del Rio now, then make Waufle the Interim DC for the rest of the season. Waufle is a bad ass.
Someone really needs to check HuJack. Him taking the blame after every loss just seems like denial and are just words to me now. We need a GM that will put HuJack in his place. Make him realize that he ain't got the Midas touch like he think he does. Also, Bresnahan needs to be fired, ASAP. He was terrible then and he is terrible now. The worst play of the game that Bresnahan called, for me, was probably the big Megatron pass play on the last drive. I mean, he put a slow MLB on freakin' Megatron?! He should just stamp "Retard" on his forehead for that play alone.
The Defense was great that it held the Lions to 17 3rd down attempts. That is what you want to see your defense do. HOWEVER, you do not want to see your defense allow the opposing offense to convert on nine of those 17 3rd down attempts. Third down conversions continue to be the bane of the offense as they only converted on one out of nine. HuJack really needs to learn how call third down plays. Second and short is when you wanna throw those deep balls to Moore (although the pass to Moore was on fourth down) and Schilens that just missed. I personally would have liked to have seen some quick slants or drags routes on those third down plays.
I think they way they have handled injuries this year is flat out pathetic. Especially they way they have handled DMac's injury.
Where to start ? I mean really ?....
1. HJ's quotes that you mention are just perfect examples of why we are losing. The first is just flat out denial. The second is a total lack of responsibility.
2. Terrible call to not go for 2 on our last TD. Admit it Hue. Stop pretending you know it all. You DONT. You are a rookie HC. A bit of humility and honesty would be a good start.
3. Awful call on 3rd down at the end. I dont mind the pass attempt .. but call a pass with a higher % chance of completion ffs.
4. That long pass play to Megatron was exactly the same coverage as Bresenfool called v Jets late on. They hit that one too ... to Keller, I believe (McClain could not even cover Keller in that scheme) .. that day Sanchez couldnt seal the deal. Today, Stafford did.
5. Sure DHB had a critical fumble etc ... but this was like the First World War: willing and gallant soldiers terribly let down by their generals on the sidelines.
This team will go nowhere with HJ until he gets honest about his and his team's shortcomings. His words are sounding very tired and lame right now. Embarrassingly so.
Who deals with hirings and firings right now ? Amy Trask ? Mark Davis ? Cant believe that HJ has 100% power. Who holds HIM accountable ?
I said it earlier in the season - and Ill say it again: he needs a sit down with John Madden.
Really painful loss.
1. Unbelievably bad decision not to go for 2. If you kick, 2 TDs beats you. If you miss the conversion...2 TDs beats you. If you get it ... well, hell, everyone knows that score.
2. When they get the PI call and get the ball that close to the goal line, LET THEM SCORE. Just let them score on the next play and preserve time--you only need a FG at that point, so that 10 or so seconds that they would have saved could have been the difference. Let. Them. Score.
3. I'm starting to feel it even more--this is the beginning of the Gruden era redux, right down to the verteran QB coming in in the second season. Different timeline, yes, but we're probably looking at 8-8 again, for the second consecutive year, behind an offensive HC with some questionable defense. Problem is, Chucky B. is no Willie Shaw, so they still need to address this.
4. Third-down playcalling was TERRIBLE. Just a quick hitch to get the first down, and the clock can be killed.
5. McClain is at best a betweener. Look no further than him dogging it on the first Lions offensive play of the game, his continuing to attack the wrong shoulders/holes, his continuing to conspicuously take plays off--this guy is frustrating the hell out of me. (Not to mention his missed tackle, which was in fact mentioned.)
Can't believe they blew this one, but come on, am I the only one who had "that feeling" when watching? The Raiders have GOT to learn to close teams out and have that killer instinct--not the highlight instinct, the killer instinct.
If the Chiefs and Chargers play like they did this week in our next couple games we will end up 7-9 and very possibly the bottom of the division. We can;t even look forward to getting a better draft pick we do not reach the playoffs seen we gave that up...
@Indy! the one element that scares me, that you dont mention, is Hue Jackson. Since Al passed on, HJ has gotten waaay too big for his boots in my opinion. He seems to forget that he is a rookie HC. He is much too cute in his play calling and he carries a swagger and an arrogance that is totally unwarranted in someone who has his experience and his results. He seemingly lives in denial a lot of the time.
He has too much power right now and too much on his plate (but he is too proud to admit it).
I fear that this team will not get to the next level until he either wakes up to reality or else we put in a top quality GM.
Im not saying we should fire him or anything crazy, but I am saying that someone needs to yank his chain.
@Indy! Great Post!!!
You are right in many respects. I think what has so many upset is that even with the ups and downs this team has gone through, this very well should have and could have been a playoff season. If Bresnahan would just stop going into prevent the second half, we could have beat most of the teams we lost to.
When the season began I told myself this is not a Superbowl year, all I want is to see an improvement over last year. I thought we had it, but my hopes are starting to fade for this year.
I am really looking foreward to next year (as long as they can Bresnahan). I am a little tired of looking forward to next year, however.
The Schillens pass was a perfectly thrown ball. Chaz just dropped it.
@massillonraider Moore on the 4th down play was wide open cuz the defender fell AFTER Palmer had already thrown the ball up, but Schilens did have a guy on him and the ball was thrown just about as good as it could be thrown. Schilens just barely missed the ball, which was catchable. Those 2 passes along with two spikes account for four of the 8 incomplete passes from Palmer out of 40 passes thrown on the day. 32-40, 367 yards and two scores is a great day for a QB.
I don't want to stomp on the last bit of your already busted bubble bu if we don't win out this is going to get much , much worse.
1. New GM may equal new Head Coach (can you say merry go around again?)
2. New GM equals new draft philosophy (can you say let's mix what we have with someone new thinks we need?)
3. New HC means New System (see#2)
4. No draft picks means throw all of the above up in the air and see what lands on your team.
5. The only new thing I like about this future is the new DC (See #2)
If your head doesn't hurt yet consider we may also be ripe for a QB controversy with Palmer losing our playoff run, a new HC that wants a fress look and a game managing starter that wants his job back. Then there is Terrel, the potential "baby wonder."
I'm out. Too angry to go on.
When you look back at our season you start to see that maybe the team was lucky to get some of their wins and the record was better than what it should have been. A new DC has to happen at the very latest this of season (if not before).
People questioned Cables coaching abilities (which I completely understand) but at least the team rallied around him and seemed to be playing with 100% effort on every play, something it appears to me this team is lacking right now. A perfect example being Seymour who is suppose to be the Veteran leader on this team.
I don't agree. If we didn't pick McClain in the top 10, the Giants were a certainty to pick him at 12 that year. You know, two top 15 teams wanted him in a 4-3 D. He's playing pretty well. He's just in a bad D full stop. It's hard to look good when you have a defensive line not getting sacks, and cornerbacks who can't cover.
I seriously doubt Ray Lewis would improve Oakland's D a great deal
I would love to see us in a 3-4 but let's be honest here, if McClain is not suited to the 4-3 why was he even drafted in the first place?!? I think the general consensus at the draft was that he was a 3-4 LB as well. Instead of going McClain and Houston 1 and 2 we could have had JPP and Pat Angerer. I know I for one was hoping we would nab Angerer as this guy is a tackling machine. Reminds me a lot of London Fletcher.
@JarrodRollins Brens call on that long pass to Megatron is worse than you think- McLain didn't have Johnson man to man- it was cover 2. How elementary does your defensive understanding have to be to know they are going to have to get big plays. Then you call a zone to stop SHORT routes. I thought Hues playcalling was great the two passes to Moore and Chaz were just a little long but the plays were there. It's the moronic D calls that cost us this game and the season baring a miracle. We need to get another speed back though Darren is only good for like 6-8 games a year.
I agree about McFaddens injury. They should have known how serious it was from the beginning and instead of making it always seem like he was just another week away.
Same could be said for Taiwan Jones injury. He's hurt and not coming back anytime soon. Yes he may eventually get better to play again this season, but he should have been put on IR and another RB signed. Bush cannot be expected to be shouldering the teams entire rushing attack on his own, and using some end arounds in the gave isn't exactly allowing Bush much rest time as he is still on the field trying to throw blocks! He makes an ideal fit when combined with a speed outside rusher and right now which we need ASAP.
@oaklandraider Madden will tell him to get Offensive Linemen who can block...
@oaklandraider I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't fault DHB for that fumble. Dude made a play and was trying to make a HUGE play--I can forgive that, esp. since we got that fumble back--along with the seven points we "lost" in the first place.
I also agree that Hue needs a check. His "taking it all on himself" when things to bad is nice and all, but it's starting to look suspiciously like a backhanded way of calling his guys out. When he DOES need to take something on himself, he refuses to do so. Maybe that's the arrogance an HC needs, but it still grates.
And I have to think that Chuck B. hasn't been fired because a) why cause that major a disruption when you're still (even now, barely) in a playoff race? and b) because the new GM will do it anyway, so why go through the hassle of changing it up twice? At least that's what I hope is the rationale...
re: McClain - I'd just say it's part of being on a generally bad defense. It's hard to stay consistent, when nobody else is doing their job.
Put RM on a top D, and he'd be destructive.
@nilbymouth It's painful to say I got it right when I said about five weeks ago I think our D is in serious trouble. Seymour showed up this week but we have issues on DL, LB and secondary. I'd hate to add up how many points a quality FS could have saved this team. No hope of that next year....
@oaklandraider@Indy! I agree. I felt that HuJack really changed with his play calling after Al Davis died. He has been insanely conservative in the 2nd half and calls a lot of plays that have no business being called. I don't know about everyone else, but to me it seems like whenever we get into a long situation, regardless of down, he just gives up. There have been a lot of times I have seen where it was like 1st and 20 and then he calls three straight runs. Or he might pass on 1st and 20, it falls incomplete and then he just runs the next two plays for like 2 yards. I hate when he does that.
There is no need to shoot Palmer down, as you can see from my post below. I think he is, without doubt the best QB we have had since Gannon! and if he had Brown and Rice as his WR I am sure Palmer would easily be be putting up Gannon numbers next year... He could well do that anyway, once he gets everyone back and fit..
I am really only gloomy about our defensive set up and scheme. That will be changed for next season! There are potentially some fantastic DC available and I am sure we will land one! The way I see it, even if we get a half competent DC in we win most of the games we lost this year....
it even says in the article above "palmers pass sailed long on schillens"!
he still threw it too far from the get go is what im saying. now in his defense, defensive holding should have been called cause the db grabbed moore but i dont know if it still would have been complete. no touch on the ball. maybe jacoby catches up with it, who knows
1 TD not 2
Certainly, if those things do come true then were in for another long haul but I seriously doubt a new GM will bring in a new coach. Hue, IMO, has done pretty well considering all the injuries he's had to deal with. A rookie coach carrying the burden that he has carried with the passing of Al and everything else. Bring back the players and I know the team can win. We saw what they can do and those young players are going to develop really nice. A new GM will most likely come in and get with Hue and ask what he needs to build a championship team. We will see new players and some new coaches as well, hopefully a new D-coordinator is the first on the list. I'm still hoping for a 9-7 finish this year which was my prediction.
I wouldn't be too bumbed about the draft picks.
Ideally you want them, but the trade off of not having them is that you're probably going to be the dominant force in free agency.
Example - Chicago in 2009, when they had no picks. Ended up with Julius Peppers. They probably wouldn't have got him, if they had to commit to 1st and 2nd round rookie money
If there were to be a new HC, and that's a big IF, I would like to see Rob Chudzinski the Panthers OC be considered. I think he could really make something of this Offense as it is very similar to the Panthers personal wise.
Pryor can be used like Newton, we have a two headed running attack that could be better than the Panthers (if McFadden can stay healthy long enough), an undersized #1 WR like Smith with Moore. Would be interesting to see what he could do!
@nilbymouth Like Al Davis had never drafted a player only to play him out of position?
@DylanAlexander The Tampa 2 only works if you have a MLB like Urlacher....
@ChristopherMooney If he is that good why didn't he stop Stafford on the 4th down scramble? Willis or Cushing there and it's game over.
@ChristopherMooney He hasn't got the range, speed or tackling ability to be a top MLB or ILB. Your comment is pure fantasy based on no evidence whatsoever.
@ChristopherMooney "Put RM on a top D, and he'd be destructive." Big deal. Of course he would--and he should. By definition, if he's playing on a top defense, he's playing with elite talent all around him--OR with talent playing at an elite level.
Since the second possibility is always more reasonable to reach than the first, then it is up to everyone on that defense--including McClain--to get themselves to that elite level within the gameplan. As the "quarterback of the defense," he needs to do more than call alignments--he needs to elevate the play of those around him and do his own damn job at the same time. To all appearances, he does neither.
Someone with his tools should be destructive, period, and should make even a bad defense better. I'm still waiting for him to show more than flashes of this.
@Raidah@JarrodRollins@oaklandraider Hue plays a little too conservative for me too. We lost a lot of games in the second half when we were leading in the first half - that's usually a sign you're being outcoached. The problem with Hue is I think he's outcoaching himself. He seems to think a 10-14 lead is enough to sit on. That's Gruden-think in my book - a sure way to lose. Flores and Madden never sat on a 10 point lead - they kept trying to score. Hopefully when the season is done Hue will look back at the video and realize he played it way too conservative when we were out front. He's a good coach imho - but like all rookie coaches his play-calling is a little unsure.
I'm on the fence with the DC. Yes, I wasn't too happy with a lot of things that happened this season - but I also knew going into the season our pass D was going to be like swiss cheese without Nnamdi and Eugene. Add in the injuries and it was a recipe for disaster.
@JarrodRollins @oaklandraider @Indy! Great post Indy!
Ya, I'm not sure about blaming Hue for all of that. Playing catch up on 2nd or 3rd and long seems to be pretty common in their games on both sides of the ball. I see what he's trying to do by trying to fool the D but it's not working. On the other hand it seems like the other teams can make up the yardage easily either by running or passing. I think he's looking for similar results but it doesn't work and if you have Palmer back there I think he should put it in his hands. I believe some if his playcalling has a lot to do with who he has hurt. I don't blame him, he's doing the best he can do with what he has, the team has been hurt since Al's passing, I think if we had our main weapons back we would see more of the offense open up on a consistent level. Especially with McFadden. Al handled so much so now that he's gone Hue has had to step up in a role he did not have, so again I think he's doing the best he can and with a GM it'll relieve some pressure. The GM wouldn't help him now unless he's bringing in players, he has who he has and the GM cant anymore. I am really looking forward to next year.
@Spartacus , could not have said it any better, excellent post
Carson Palmer did have a great game, and he cannot be faulted for the loss. There is absolutely no way I would take a gamble on Pryor right now, as he is nowhere in Cam Newton's league, and we just do not know how he is going to respond to the pressure. Theses last two games are the most critical the Raiders have faced in years, and to put in an unproven quarterback is absolute insanity.....The one positive I can see about this game is that Denarius Moore's presence opened the game up for Palmer, and he was much more relaxed and was making great passes for the majority of the game....
If we really want to get picky, though, we can throw some blame over to DHB. Yes, he did have an overall great game, but he had a key fumble, and when we needed him to make a play the most (at the end of the game) he dropped the ball. If people are going to criticize Palmer, then DHB has to take some blame as well... Calvin Johnson and DHB both played great in this game, but we saw the difference between a franchise wide receiver and a good wide receiver. The franchise made the plays (Johnson) when they counted the most.....
In reading a few posts on here I am reading a few people being critical of Carson's performance and thinking that Pryor should play as they think he is cam newton.. ... I think this is ridiculous.
IF the defence had of held on Levi would have had him as his top baller this week.. bar, the 2 passes... 1 to a not up to full speed Moore, where the pass was only a foot a head of him and Chaz dropping as perfect as a pass as needed people won't be talking about this (Also, remember the calls for these 2 passes were on HJ and Palmer almost delivered perfectly)
The FACT is Palmer had a QB rating of 113.2, his best since San Diego where he was drawing plaudits from every corner.. Also he had a pick in the SD game. In my eyes, Palmer was the best Raider playing, no question...
I personally wouldnt be surprised, if Levi does have Palmer as top Baller... certainly he is close to the top of my list,
@ChristopherMooney It's a good point that can easily overlooked.
@ams2fx 4th and 2 on our 8 yard line with about 5 mins to go in the game. Stafford elected to scramble and McClain completely missed the tackle which gave them a 1st down on the 3. Next play they score the TD on the short out. Got my bearings slightly wrong but it was about the same.
It was a huge miss tho. McClain does what he's supposed to do and we win the game.
@JarrodRollins@nilbymouth Move him to DE. He's good going forward and has acceptable speed for that position but not MLB. That tackle he whiffed when Stafford scored nearly had me crying. He was in position yet Stafford almost went right through him. He's just not good enough. Same for Mike Mitchell. One big hit cant obscure the fact that he looks absolutely lost out there and doesn't have the speed to stay with a receiver.
@DylanAlexander Even then, you dont call a Tampa 2 on the final drive of the game against Megatron....